.::So I noticed that many people do this, and its' rather sickening. Either they disregard the proper course of historical events, immensely misinterpret it, or 'alter it' to fit their ships. Three main 'ships' that this occurs with are ones I happen to dislike with gusto. For me, I majorly dislike JapanxPhilippines, JapanxCambodia, and FrancexCambodia. Lets' get started on why, shall we? Japanese Imperialism in the Philippines and Cambodia was nothing short of horrific. The Japanese killed enormous amounts, burned villages, raped women, the whole nine yards. Though this was primarily occuring in the Philippines and they are in reasonable terms current day, it doesn't change the fact that this pairing could be considered remotely offensive. As for French colonization in Cambodia, many Khmer ways were oppressed and almost stamped out.
However, this does not go to say that Imperialism, Colonization, and 'Invasion' are synonymous with rape. Rape is not trendy. RAPE. IS. NOT. FUNNY.
Its' really disrespectful to rape victims to make your OC be majorly raped and yet still being passionately in love with their rapist. I'm really glad that most Alaska's don't do what is frequently done on Tumblr. Yes, people seriously make a huge tangent about how horribly abused and how raped their Alas-OC's are by Russia and yet how they have a beyond the boundries passionate romance. Yes, Alaska was dealt horrible atrocities such as the massacres of their people and animals by the Russians. However, isn't it rather insensitive to portray the State in such a way?
Lastly, I see a huge drama/harassment issue going down about 'white washing', and it is sadly very frequent.
First: If you see a 'white-washed' OC, don't go screeching and throwing the "OMG RACIST SUUUUEEE!!111!" Just say or hint along the lines of "Oh, perhaps it'd be best to make your OC a tad darker skinned" and link them to pictures/references of people from that country. Second: Typically this seen with South African countries, and I get that the Dutch [and other caucasian ethnics] make up a large quanity of the population, but South African countries are still African. At the very last make their skin a dark tan pigment.
((Eyaa, thank you!!! My first order of business would be to curb-stomp all the really bad OC's who use rape as a character development trait AND HELP THE PHILIPPINES CLEAR THEIR GOOD-NAME. Agh... I've noticed that lately people have been focusing on really good Piri OC's and nit-picking them rather than focusing on even worse OC's out there. ;___; It saddens me...))
Drizzle-the-hedgieFeatured By OwnerApr 21, 2013Hobbyist Writer
Yeah I have a few OC's and I literally read their WHOLE wiki pages, as well as finding traditional human names for them. Thew white-washing issue I haven't seen yet... But the rape issue is crazy! It's best to leave Iggy out of it if it's a country that was forcefully colonized by him.(Which is almost everyone//shot)
((I'd use Wikipedia sparingly and with caution. But yes, using traditional naming systems is very important! Some countries/ethnics require a certain way for a name to be composed, not only just the name itself but the method and way the whole name is composed. For example, most Khmer people don't have middle names, but many people who make Mary-Sue Cambodia's make obnoxiously long names.... Q____Q But I'm glad you're working hard!!! I'd love to see how amazing your OC's turn out! Ugh, the rape issue is a huge deal. eAe It upsets me when they take a good character like England and make him a rapist for their own benefit/OC. ;___; Its' been happening far too often as of late!! D: ))
Drizzle-the-hedgieFeatured By OwnerApr 21, 2013Hobbyist Writer
Yeah! I mean I know England was mean back in the day, but don't make him THAT evil! He's to gentlemanly to do those things. Plus it's wrong to warp characters for your own benefit.
I write fanfics, but I try to stay true to the character's natural personality as well as it's history. If you're going to make an event into Hetalia, make it reasonable and true, not love filled and grotesque.
((Exactly. The characters do have some humanity to them, and it is unlikely that they'd commit such acts personally.
Countries as a whole do not want war; select individuals do.
Though history itself is a tale of alliances and blood-baths, there should be a medium on how it is portrayed. For example, characters who were at eachothers throats in the past but fine current day are often portrayed as still despising each other with vigor. The same goes vice-versa. u_u This is something that should honestly be avoided. What I can't stand, though, are people taking a bad era between two nations and trying to make it into a "Stockholm-Syndrome-Kawaii" love-story.
Its' very heartening that you keep to the characters core values in your fanfics, though. ^_^ Good Job!))
The shipping of countries that don't even have much to do with each other annoys me too. It's sad to some OCs become such epic fails too. That's why I've practically killed my sanity in researching EVERYTHING about my OC, to the relations with her neighboring countries and those of cannon. It just sucks majorly that third world countries don't seem to have much history on the net T^T. Oh well, still researching.
And the whitewashing is another issue too. Come on people, have some sense. Think of the ORIGINAL natives that lived there, not just the colonial settlers that came into the place four or five centuries ago. Countries are MUCH older then that.
((The occasional crack-pairing is okay, but I agree, once it goes into the bounds of "=insert nation name here= LOVES MY OC AND SO DOES =insert numerous nations here= BECAUSE =insert OC name here= IS SO BEAUTIFUL BUT EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER OR HAVE RELATIONS, THEY STILL LOVE =insert OC name here= BECAUSE ITS CUTE AND SO THERE" it gets SUPER TERRIBLE. QAQ I've noticed a lot of random human OC's are being paired with nations lately too. o___o
I agree with your point about the natives! I really dislike it when people state that their OC was raised by their colonizer EVEN THOUGH they have an immense history prior to colonization! D:))
Definitely and I'm so glad you brought it up. Therefore I salute you all the way with this >v< And the occasional human OC with a nation isn't so bad as long as she'll become a capitol or something. Has no one learned the pain France had to feel? But yeah, I get you.
((It's a rather controversal matter and many may disagree, but I'm glad you agree. uwu Ah, the occasional human is alright, but the sort that frequently pairs themselves with a multitude of cannon characters is rather...odd. I agree though, that countries [primarily the colonizer ones such as England, France, Spain, and Portugal] often have their personalities severely warpped, and not in a favorable manner. The whole concept of people bickering and obsessing over ships is pretty off-the-wall too.))
((Ja, that's true. I don't know if my other ics Bora Bora and Tahiti count, but I tried to make it as historical as possible. I dislike how people just ship their oc with a cannon that doesn't even have any history behind it...))
(( Ugh this is so beautiful I can't even-- I dislike those pairings as well. I'm saddened because Philippines had close relations with other countries but most people disregard it. (aka Mexico x Philippines. I ship it so hard because they had good history together that extends further than just simple trading, but many don't even pay attention to that. ) I also don't like America x Philippines because America was horrible to Phili in the past v_v"
Then there's those OCs with Stockholm Syndrome... -blows up- ))
((Ahuuu, thank you! uwu But yes, I'm not a USPH fan either, and it is very sad when most of the new-comers to the fandom ignore or neglect to look further into the Philippines relations. u_u
THE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME-goodness almighty, that and the schizophrenia/immense maddness disorders that are being used for a character.... Ugh. I feel as though I should make a journal giving the full medical definitions of commonly used disorders and why it is distasteful to use them so inaccurately...))
I. Love. You. I think its disrespectful if there is whitewash and immature shipping. Thats why i tend to not like crack pairs or Colony x Colonizer ships. I think its good you said this, because its fully true.
((Ah, thank you. But yes, the ColonyxColonizer ships tend to be highly inaccurate and borderline offensive. I mean, colonizer's tend to either be Parental [in the case of Cape Verde, for example, which was devoid of human life till Portugal colonized] or Dictator figures... As for white wash, I mean, its okay if the offender corrects it is quite new to the fandom. However, we get those who base their OC 100% off themselves and give them alabaster complexions on an otherwise dark skinned ethnic, and refuse to change and freak out when people try to correct them.... Its' been getting hectic regarding people like that lately.))
Yes thats what i think. But i dont take offense to any pairing... its just anime characters after all. But i see why people can get offended, because it is country personifications we're dealing with here. But yes i totally get you! Colony x Colonizer seems like pedophilia to me. Urgh yes thats the worst! Denial people. Thats just sad, if you ask me. But totally, if its corrected, its forgotten and thats good, but otherwise... People just dont understand not all OCs have to be white. I personally love darker skin a lot latina countries omg <33 and Spain
((For me, its the portrayal of certain pairings that majorly irk me. Like, once someone alters the course of history for the sake of their pairings and makes it an overly abusive and masochistic... Then it's severely wrong.e_e Ughuu, I have yet to see a South African country. That. Isn't. Caucasian. I mean, OCs should at least have the skin tone of their native ethnicity. ))
Fair enough, i agree. But when it comes to things like that i always see things like 'they've been together for a long time' and 'he raised her and now she loves him' and i'm like... O_e okay? I have to admit, there is an exception to some Colony x Colonizer pairs i dont mind at all but they are portrayed well and i love that more than anything. IKR? Seriously~
((Some ColonyXColonizer ships do fit if portrayed right. |D But yeah, when it comes to the sort of parental relationship, it gets pretty weird. e_e Partly the reason why I'm not really overly fond of USK, because I view them in a more sibling or parental aspect. u_u;;; Some to end up rather sweet when portrayed right, like certain portrayals of SeychellesXFrance But only sometimes ahurhurhur //slapped// e_e;;;
Once, I saw a Cambodia with really pale skin, sort of silver-like eyes, and Chinese clothes. o_o The creator said that Cambodia was the "daughter of France and the wife of Russia, and wears chinese clothes because China also raised her.". I sort of went: because Cambodia has over 6,000 years of history and very neutral relations with Russia. I really get irked when people start from the Colonizing era and not from the very beginning with the country. Q__O))
((ah, thank you cause personally I get tired of some ships especially with FrancexCanada cause trust the French weren't so kind to Canadian natives.
Plus I seen 3 ships with Greenland that make me cringe a bit because looking into Greenland's history and looking into those ships make you think differently about. Like I don't ship Greenland with either Denmark, Norway, or Iceland because of the history with them, I would assume Greenland think of them as family or very close friends.
Plus for me I ship Greenland with either America or Canada cause those 2 history is more positive then negative with Greenland but good work. =7= ))
((Its' not so much of the ship itself being the problem, but what people are doing/going about shipping. When the whole basis of shipping is a pointless fight on which ship is 'best', well, this is currently the low point of our fandom. If two countries had a very violent past but are moderate in current-day, well, thats fine. Shipping is supposed to be fun. When it comes to the point of using rape as a tool for a Hetalia OC's shipping development/justification, then it because extremely offenssive. I wouldn't mind Japan and Philippines so much if people didn't constantly butcher it in a sick manner. The newer members of the fandom need to learn that basing their OC or ships relationshp off of an abusive period in their history and using the Stockholm Syndrome and rape as the whole factor of the relationship is unacceptable.))
And this is actually what made me feel like staying off Hetalia for a while. I'm okay with crack pairings but when it get's crazy with the rape and deaths, it's too much like the Stockholm Syndrome...
I went to Cambodia last year and I have to say that when I visited the killing field, I just cried. I shudder thinking what the people must have felt when they were killed in various ways while forced to listen to the music to cover the murders. It really breaks my heart that people are actually using those monstrous acts as a basis to "This nation loves this nation so much that they..."
Thank you for voicing out this matter It's time that a revolution takes place in this fandom
((I'm glad you agree! But yes, many of the newer fans to Hetalia have been over doing controversial issues like schizophrenia, Stockholm Syndrome, rape, etc... ;_; I hope that with gradual guidance a revolution of sorts will occur and the fandom will produce less offensive and more accurate OCS.. Ah, yes, the Khmer Rouge were thorough barbarians! Even after death they disrespected their victims with dismemberment and by hanging corpses.. I have some family who fled to Thailand when it happened... It really is horrible and put Cambodia in its current state... Ah... I've been meaning to make a journal about Countries themselves not always wanting war, but rather it is the leader or people that do. Do you think its a good idea?))
That's exactly what I had in mind too. Basically countries aren't the evil ones, they're just personification of landmasses brought to life by our imaginations. It's our responsibility that they turn out as accurate as possible.
It's the government of the nations that's responsible for all the evil doings. The countries just obeyed what they were told, that's all. This is like the use of science issue, where people blame science for producing nuclear weapons that kills many innocent lives. The point is that science is just knowledge and a tool in humans hand. It's up to the humans whether to use it for good or bad thing
You should totally do that journal. I'm definitely giving you my 100% of support!